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Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین

lolz

matlab tum loog jo marzi akwas likhty raho
dosroon ka name ly ky
aur hum dhondty rahain
unhoon ny isa kuch ni likha
isi liy tum ko takleef di hy 
keh tum wo tafseer dekhao
jis main yeh likha hy
na keh kisi ullu ky pathy ka likha hoa galt jhoota aur namukamal literature
isi liy tum ko bola hy keh ab wo real page bhi dekha do jis se yeh sab makhoz hy
warna main dekh chuka
ab tum ny apny is fasaq ko prove karna hy
aur logoon ko btana hy
keh kis trah tum loog jhoot bolty ho 
dosroon par

ok


 

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:59 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Order tu yun day raha ho jasa tumhara aba g ka mulazam hun main.
 
jao khud hi dhond lo agar fikar hay apna akida darust karna ki.
 
Pyasa koun kay pas jata hay, kounan nahi chal kar pyasa kay pass ata.
 
Tumhara lia itna hi kafi hay kay tumhan complete references day dia han. Bazar main jao our books purchase kar kay dakh lo.
 
 
Sajda Akida par mabni hay tu batao Farishton ka kya akida tha? Ambi Kiram Alaha Salam ka kya akida guzra hay?
 
Mara buhat say sawalat thay mari email main, un main say kisi ka bi jawab tum na abi tak nahi diya hay.
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
geer Allah ko Sajda
aur
zana ki buniad ek hi hy?

in main se akeedy par mabni amal koon sa hy
aur bad-amli koon se hy?


Shaikh ul hind Moulana MAhmood ul hassan sab ki tafseer ka wo page scane copy ya snap ki shakal main send karo

hum loog aap ki in ibaraat par yakeen nahi rakhty hain
main ny seach kai hy mujy isi koi tafseer ni mili hy
jesa aap ky is copy past literature main bian ki gai hy

thx

 

 
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:38 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
 
"jo loog tum ko manty hain tum ko follow karty hain unhain samjana un ki tarbiat tumhara farz nahi hy kia?"
 
is baat ka jawab tu tum na khud hi day dia hay, see "jo amaal hoty hain un ka zuma daar insaan khod hy" is baat main kuch bi dhaka chupa nahi hay kay sajda sirf Allah Ta'ala ki zaat Pak ko hay our kisi ko nahi, Ahadees say sabit hay Quran Pak say sabit hay.
Hazoor ()  na farmay: Agar sajda tazimi ki ijazat di jati kisi ko tu wo biwi ko hukam hota kay wo apna shohar ko sajda karay.(Not actual words)
 
JO log qabroon par ja kar sajda karta han wo bi sajda tazeemi karta han, sajda ibadat nahi karta. Sajda tazimi ki bi ijazat nahi hay. Wo un ki jahalat hay jo log karta han.
 
Kon ho ga jo yah samajta ho ga kay yah jis ki qabar hay wo Khuda hay yah wo khuda ka shareek hay, yah wo khuda ka bata hay???
 
 
i- Farishton na Hazrat Adam Alaha'Salam ko sajda kiya, wo sajda tazeemi thi koi mushrik nahi hoa.
ii- Hazrat Yousaf Alaha Salam kay Bhaion na Hazrat Yousaf Alaha Salam ko sajda kiya, koi mushrik nahi hoa.
 
Pata chala kay niyat ka faraq hota hay. Pahli umaton main sajda tazeemi ki ijazat thi. Ab nahi hay.
 
Waldan kay samna hath bandh kar khara ho gay, niyat adab ki hay tu is par sawab milay ga. Insan Namaz main bi Allah Ta'ala kya hazoor Hath bandh kar khara hota hay.
 
 
 
"yeh kaam sirf bralvi hi kion karty hain koi deobandi ya whabi kion ni karta"        &        "agar likah nahi hy to per azadi kion di ja rahi hy"
 
Is baat ko tum sari umar sabit nahi kar sako gay kay yah kam sirf bralvi hi karta han our Mazarat Aulia/Anbia kiram Alahasalam par sirf Ahl'Sunnat WalJammat say hi taluk rakhna walay jataty han.
Main tumhan sabit karta hun Deobandi/Ahl'Hadees bi jata han (Read Below everything with reference):
 

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"is ka matlab hy tum ny unhain kuch lachak di hy na"    &    "tum kion ni kahty tumhary bary is jhalat ki sarparasti apni khamoshi se kion karty hain"
 
 yahan bi tumhara ana hi jawab mojood hay, har koi apna amal ka khud zimadar hay.
Thori si our wazahat kardon tumhara lia:
 
Hazrat Nooh Alaha'salam ki kom main jo log un kay sath thay wo bach gay, baki barbad ho gay. Un ka Nasbi bata bi barbad hoa. Wo apna amal ka khud zima dar tha, koi yah nahi kah sakta hay Hazrat Nooh Alaha'salam na usa lachak day rakhi thi.
 
Hazrat Salah Alaha'salam ki kom par azab aya. (Hazrat Salah Alah'salam bari'uz zima thay) Un ka kam tableeg karna tha.
 
Hazrat Mosa Alaha Salam na Firon ko Deen ki tableeg ki nahi mana, wo apna amal ka khud zima dar thahra.
 
Tum(Atif Aleem) Kis moun say Ahl'Sunnat ko bura kahta ho? Agar tu yah sajda karna ki talqeen Ahl'Sunnat kay ulma ni ki hay phir tu sabit karo. Warna tum logon kay amal ko kyun Ulma kiram par dalta ho???
 
 
 
"jo akaid banty hain wo shariat bnati hy
jo amaal hoty hain un ka zuma daar insaan khod hy
shriat ko akaid par napa jata hy
amaal par nahi
sajda akaid ki tarjmani karta hy
amaal insaan ki zaat ki
akaid shriat ky tarjman hoty hain
amaal nahi"
 
 
 Shariat wo hay jo Pyara Aqa Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa Salal'laho Alaha Wasalam na Allah Ta'ala kay hukam say ahkamat bayan farmay han.
 
Us par amal Kiya Pyara Aqa Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa Salal'laho Alaha Wasalam na our phir Sahaba Kiram RaziAllah Anha na.
 
Ab jo wasa hi amal kara ga us ka akida sahi hay, jo is say hat gaya wo ghalat.
 
Ab bato baki kya rah gaya hay? 
 
 
Agar abi bi koi masla baki hay tu sabit karo our jawab lay lo.
 
 
Jasa zina aik kam ka name hay wasa hi sajda bi aik kam karna ka name hay. Isa Amal kahta han, khana khana aik amal hay, chalna phirna aik amal hay. Har kam kay karna ko amal/action kaha jata hay 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 



1-Tum agar asay 100,000 admi bi lay ao tu is ka kya matlab hay?
 
jo loog tum ko manty hain tum ko follow karty hain unhain samjana un ki tarbiat tumhara farz nahi hy kia?
yeh kaam sirf bralvi hi kion karty hain
koi deobandi ya whabi kion ni karta

is ka matlab hy tum ny unhain kuch lachak di hy na

deo bandi wahabi koi ulma jab membar e rasool par jata hy
wo cheekh cheekh ky kehta hy
mabood Allah
masjood Allah
Maqsood Allah
tum kion ni kahty
tumhary bary is jhalat ki sarparasti apni khamoshi se kion karty hain
kion keh unhain apny rizk ky band hony ka dar hy
unhain jo rotian milti hain
un ki din ky naam par jo iyashian lagi hain
wo khatam ho jain gi
agar sach bolain gy
agar hakikat bian kar dain gy
tum loog jaan booj kar apny duniavi mufadaat ky liy unhain yeh narmi dety ho
per kahty hain keh bralviat bekasoor hy
is main kahain ni likha
agar likah nahi hy to per azadi kion di ja rahi hy
 
 
2- Agar main tumhan 1,000 asi Musalman Aurton ka bata dun jo kalma parti han our Zina karna/ Apna Jisam bachna un ka pasha hay. Tu batao is ka kya matlab hay? Kay Zina Halal ho jay ga kyun kay log asa karta han???
 
amal aur akida main jo fark hota hy us ka tum ko nahi pta hy shaid
sajda akidy ki buniad par kai jata hy
aur jism farooshi amal ki buniad par
swal karny se pehly us ka jawaz dekh lina chahiy
jazbati ho ky takreer ni karni chahiy
 
 
3- Yah phir yah un ki jahalat hay???
 
bralvi ki jhalat koon door kary ga
deobbandi aur whabi ki to wo baat ni sunta
kion keh usy feed karwa dia gia hy keh yeh to hain hi kafir
per yeh duty bralvi ulma ki hy na
aur bralvi ulma kion khamoosh hain
 
 
4- Aik baat batao, Kay Qanoon Shariat kay hisab say hota hay yah logon kay karna kay hisab say?
 
jo akaid banty hain wo shariat bnati hy
jo amaal hoty hain un ka zuma daar insaan khod hy
shriat ko akaid par napa jata hy
amaal par nahi
sajda akaid ki tarjmani karta hy
amaal insaan ki zaat ki
akaid shriat ky tarjman hoty hain
amaal nahi
 
 
 
5- Millions of people smoking karta han, kya smoking Halal our jaiz ho jati hay un kay karna say. Kya koi non-muslim kah sakta hay kay yah kam musalman karta hay is lia yah us kay deen/mazhab/akida ka hisa hay?
 
is ka jawab bhi wahi hy jo oper de chuka hon
 
 
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
tum isy 100 admi dekh sakty ho
jo peroon ko kabroon ko sajda karty hain
aur sab  ky sab pakky bralvi hain
per aur kai dalil chahiy



On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:56 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
 
Baat tu sabit karni paray gi. us kay bina tu koi chara kar nahi hay.
 
Apni baat ka saboot dana parta hay.
 
Yah tu Qanoon hay Jo Allah Ta'ala na hi hamain sikhla dia ha Quran Majeed kay zaria.
 
Kya bhool gay ho jab Musrik/Kafir kahta thay kay yah Quran Khudsakhta kitab hay. Allah Ta'ala na un say Daleel mangi, kay aik ayat hi lay ao.
 

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Baghar sabit kiya tum chahay jo marzi thoptay jao hamaray sar par. Asa tu nahi na hota.
 
 
-------------------------- Now be Brave & Prove ------------------------------------
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
maih kitab kion sabat karon

tum is baat ka inkaar karo keh isa nahi hy
kai loog kabroon par ni jaty
wahan sajdy ni karty
aur kai wo loog bhi bralvi ni hain
main tum ko reality dekah raha hon
bta raha hon

kia kabhi kisi deobandi ko ya whabi ko dekha hy kabar ko sajda karty hoy
per kion
yeh sab bralvi hi kion karty hain?





On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:43 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
 
Question tu main na repeat kiya tha. You can see in the picture below.
 

Ab muabla kuch asa hay, App na jo alfaz istamal kiya han. Unko app na ab sabit karna hay. Chahay kisi bi mustanad bralvi Alim ki kitab say sabit karan, balkay acha rahay ga kay app Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Rahmatullah Alaha ki kisi bi kitab say apna alfaz ko sabit kardain.
 
App kay alfaz main highlight karta hun:
 
"kabroon ko sajda karna"
 
&
 
"jo bhi loog mzaroon par jaty hain aur kabroon ko even zinda logoon ko sajda karty hain
wo sary bralvi hi haian"
 
 
1- Ab sabit kya karna hay?
  • Sabit yah karna hay kay yah jo akida hay qaboor ko our zinda logon ko sajda karna ka, wo  Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Rahmatullah Alaha na sikhaya/bataya hay?
 
  •  Sabit yah karna hay kay yah jo akida hay qaboor ko our zinda logon ko sajda karna ka, wo Bralvi Ulma is ko bayan karta han?
 
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
un answered kesy jinab

jo aap ny pooch ahy
main ny usi ka jawab dia hy
aap ek baar per par lain
ya apny qUESTION REPEAT KAR DAIN


jo bhi loog mzaroon par jaty hain aur kabroon ko even zinda logoon ko sajda karty hain
wo sary bralvi hi haian
 




On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:07 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
You didn't answered my question.
 
1- Tumhara butabik "kabroon ko sajda karna" yah bralvion ka akida hay. Asa hi hay?
 
Above is my unanswered question.
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
Khaloos ky sath hdyt se bar ky jkoi nemat nahi hy

likan baat ko dalil par karna
ok
apni baat aur akidy ko wesa hi bian karna
jesy pehly apny akida maroor ky bian kia hy wesa ni karna
theek hy na

manzoor hy



On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:58 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Jo tum na list di hay ab us par baat karta han. Umeed hay bhago gay nahi.
 
Note: Agar tumhan ghalat sabit kardia tu tum toba karo gay our Mara Akida ko khula dil day apnao gay our isi ki tableeg karo gay,  agar main ghalat sabit ho gaya tu main toba karun ga.
 
Manzoor hay? Yah nahi?
 
1- Tumhara butabik "kabroon ko sajda karna" yah bralvion ka akida hay. Asa hi hay?
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
Bralvi likhna bidat kufar aur shirk ni hy
likan yeh lafz jis akidy ko zahi r karta hy
us ko manny waly
is lafz ky saya ky nichy pinpny waly loog  bidat shirk aur mazhab main lagviat ky murtakib hain

kabroon ko sajda karna
dunia main janti darwaza bnana aur us main se guzarna
mzaroon ko kaba ki shakal main tameer karna
apni marzi se din main tehreef karna
wo buzargan e din jin ki wafat ho chuki hy un se mantain man'na
un se madad manna
Allah ky siwa kisi ko mushkal kisha kehna
aur ahle sunnat ko mehz thory ikhtilaf ki khatar choor ky shia ko bhai kahna (jo keh ek 100@ alag firka hy)
yeh sab kaam inhio logoon main pay jaty hain
jo khod ko bralvi kehty hain

no doubt keh yahan kuch buhat achy bhi hain
jo haq ki baat manty hain
likan amomiat yahi karti hy

aur sunnat ky khifat imama bandhna
per us ko sunnat kehna

yeh sab wo batain hain jo is lafz ki pinah liny waly karty hain

aur haan jihad jesy mustakil fareezy ka inkaar
 
 


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:41 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
 
Yah biddat nahi han, koi aik topic chose karlo. Us par baat karlata han.
 
our yaad rahay, har biddat buri nahi hoti, Biddat ki bi iqsam han.
 
My one question is due on you Atif Aleem:
 
1- Ab tum batao kay Bralvi likhna Shirk hay, kufr hay, biddat hay, Haram hay??? Kay is baat par toba karni hay?
 
Answer is required about the above question.
 
 
 
 
Brother nothing is more important than religion. If someone is saying your faith(akida) is wrong. Then we must put our ears on that, if we are wrong, then we accept the right.
 
If he is wrong, then we must show him he/she is wrong.
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
aur jin bidaat par tum loog amal pera ho
kabar par azaan dena
khatam
giarvain
kabrain pakki karna
mzar bnana
yeh sab  kahan se aai hain
agar tum ek mujadad ko manny waly ho to?


 
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:31 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Question revise karo, sahi tarika say likho... Than I will try to answer each of your question.
 
Don't waste time in wrong format.
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
ek aur ? mark bhi hy
wo bhi dekho
us ka bhi jawab do


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:25 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
 
"
yeh kaam to buhat sary logoon ny kiy hain
per aap ny khod ko sirf Bralvi hi kion likha hy
aur kahlaty ho?
"
 
Maslan kis kis nay yah kam kiya hay? Bralvi aik pahchan hay, tumhan pahla bi bataya hay kay yah koi maslak nahi hay.
 
Sirf khud ko batil say alahda karna kay lia pahchan hay.....
 
Deobandi bi khud ko Ahl'Sunnat Wal Jammat kahlana laga han, lakin un ka akida darust nahi hay, is lia khud ko un say alahda rakhna kay lia hum bralvi likh data han.
 
1- Ab tum batao kay Bralvi likhna Shirk hay, kufr hay, biddat hay, Haram hay??? Kay is baat par toba karni hay?
 
 
"kion?
kesy ?"
 
2- Yah kyun kis baat par hay???
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
? marks kagy hain
wahi swal hain
un ka jawab do


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:10 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Put your question/query in tht form of point which I told you before.
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
yeh kaam to buhat sary logoon ny kiy hain
per aap ny khod ko sirf  Bralvi  hi kion likha hy
aur kahlaty ho?

aur jin bidaat par tum loog amal pera ho
kabar par azaan dena
khatam
giarvain
kabrain pakki karna
mzar bnana
yeh sab  kahan se aai hain
agar tum ek mujadad ko manny waly ho to?
mujadad to din ko aab e muqatar ki trah saaf karta hy
us main se bidtain aur falto chezain nikalta hy

tum Mujadad ko manny ka dawa karty ho
aur yeh sab bidtain ikhtiar kiy hoy ho

kion?
kesy ?




On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:55 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
 
"Q : aap ky nazdeek Ahmad Raza Khan kia hain?"
 
 
Ahmed Raza Khan Insan thay our Deen kay Alim, Mujadid, Mutrajim, Ahl'Sunnat ka difa karna wala us waqat jab kay fitna buhat zayada sarbuland ho rahay thay.
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
wesy kmal hy keh aap ko isy swal ki samj ni aai


Q :  aap ky nazdeek Ahmad Raza Khan kia hain?


swal buhat asan hy




On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:15 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Chalo ab kuch asa karo, apna sawalat ko points main likho.
 
Just like:
  1. Question is
  2. Question is
  3. Question is
Phir tum yah nahi kah sako gay kay tumhara koi sawal baki hay.
 
Our muja wo baat bato jis par toba karni hay?
 
Kyun ka mara nahi khayal kay Ahmed Raza khan Rahmatullah Alaha ko Imam kahna say TOba karni parti hay, yah phir yah koi Kufr, shirk yah biddat ho.
 
-------------- Pyara Line par ao. -------------  Zayada dar main asa time waste nahi karun ga. ---------------
 
  • Sawal Point main with "?" at the end of question
  • Agar koi sawal baki hay tu usa highlight karo apna reply main kay yah sawal baki rah gaya hay.
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
lolz
herat hy Ahmad Raza Khan sab Mujadad bhi thy

wesy aap ny baat ka jawab deny ki bjay baat ko gumma dia hy

aap ki mails ko jis main buhat se budaat ko aap ny jaiz karar dia hy
baat to un par karni hy
likan aap ka Ahmad Raza Khan ky sath kai talak hy
wo abhi tak clear ni hoa

baki jitni bhi batain aap ny ki hain wo la hasil hain

mera dil tang ni hy

aap shaid tangi feekl kar rahy hain




 
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 1:19 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Kisi ko Imam kahna kahna juram hay???
 

Hamara Nazdeek un ki buhat ahmiyat hya. Kyun kay un ki deen kay lia buhat khidmat han, Unhon na badmazhabon ko expose kiya our phir khud sa hi nahi kay khud hi fawta laga dia.
 
Balkay un ki tahriron ko Saudi Arab kay jo us waqat kay Sunni Ulma thay, jo kay pakay Sunni hoa kartay thay un say fatway lia.
 
Un ki tahkik  buhat zayada hay, un ka tarjuma Quran Adab wala tarjuma hay, Fatawa Rizwia 30 Volumes han us kay. 50 Say zayada Ilam par unhan uboor hasil tha.
 
Main jitni tareef karta jaoun ga tumhara dil utna tang hota jay ga.
 
 
"aur Ahmad Raza per kis mukaam par hain aap ki nazar main "
 
Yah tu adab ki baat hay, koi tu "Rasool Allah SAWW ka ilam e gaib" saww par hi guzara karta hay, jo kay intahi ghalat hay, adab kay bi khilaf hay our hukam kay bi,
 
Our koi Rasool Allah Salal'laho Alaha Wasalam  likhta hay.
 
 
Ab tum track ki taraf a jao, asal masla tu akida ka ha.
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
yaar
ek traf tum Ahmad Raza Khan ko immam kahty ho
disri trah tum yeh sab kehty ho
jo keh bilkul theek hy

aur per oper se tum loog batain sari Ahmad Raza ki manty ho
aur Immam abbu hanifa ki buhat sari batain nahi manty ho

Rasool Allah SAWW ka ilam e gaib
hazar nazar hona
aur khatam wageera kahan hanfiat main jaiz hain
per mujy yeh bta sakty ho

aur Ahmad Raza per kis mukaam par hain aap ki nazar main




On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:46 PM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Tu masla kya hay ab???
 
App sabit kijiya kay wo shariat walay hi imam han our un ki taqleed ki jati hay?
 
Main na tu app ko bata dia hay kay un ki taqleed nahi ki jati.
 
Shariat Walay Sirf 4 Bara Aima Kiram hay.
 
1- Imam Azam Abu-Hanifa     RaziAllah Anha
2- Imam Shafi     Rahmatullah Alaha
3- Imam Mallik     Rahmatullah Alaha
4- Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal     Rahmatullah Alaha
 
 
Chalo yahi kisi Ahl'Sunnat say sabit kardo kay in 4 Kay ilawa Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Fazil Bralvi ki bi Taqleed ki jati hay?
 
Jasa kay tum na kaha, "2 ya is se ziada imaam ek nmaz karwain" agar 2 Imam Namaz nahi karwa sakta tu Masail tu bata sakta han na??? Yah kay us par bi pabandi hay?
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
jinab aaop ny reply ni kia

aap kahty ho keh Ahmad Raza kHan immam hain
to per main ny swal kia tha keh ek immam ky hoty hoy dosry ki kai zaroroat hy

kia uisa ho sakta hy

aap ny farmaya keh masjad main immam hota hy
to wo shriat ka nahi nmaz ka imaam hota hy
aur wo bhi hamisgha ek hi hota hy
aap ny kabhi isa dekha hy
keh 2 ya is se ziada imaam ek nmaz karwain

is ka jawab ni dia aap ny



On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:30 PM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Bas baat khatam ho gai???
 
Ho gaya mara akida ghalat sabit???
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
main bhi yahi keh raha hoon
keh moot se pehly akida sahih kar lina chahiy
aur akidy ky bary main jhoot bhi ni bolna chahiy
aur zidd bhi ni karni chahiy
moot ka koi pta nahi
aur ALlah diloon ky bhaid buhat achi trah janta hy
ok


On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:45 PM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Tumhari email kay thik 3Min bad tuhan reply kardia tha main na, our abi tak tumhri koi khabar nahi hay.
 
Ab tum kisi our janib nikal lia ho.  

Track par aoo. Mout say pahla akida darust karlana chahiya, our mout tu kisi bi waqat pohanch rahi hay.
 

********    Images is removed to save bandwidth & space, refer to previous email to see images.    ******

 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
yahan sirf Khak saar ko nazar aany do
tum kahain aur milo

tumhara daman kitna saaf hy mujy pta hy
aur us ko bahan kahny par itna gusa kion kia?

tum wahi ho na VU Tinkoo waly
jis ny apni bahnioon ko wahan add kia
per wahan nangi pic post ki hain
apna mnuh par lga hoa kechr dekh loo
per yeh sab bak bak kar lina

aur is kaam ly kiy koi alag thread bna lo
wahan tum se bhi baat ho jay gi
yahan mazhabi baat ho rahi hy
is liy usy hony do

khaksaar sab kahain la jawab to ni ho gay
jo tum apna ganda mnuh utha ky yahan aa gay ho

ek traf jin ko bahnhain bna ky un se personal batain poochty gho
dosri id  se unhai bahnoon ko psany ki koshash karty ho
aur personal batoon ko uase karty ho
maha begeerat insaan



On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Rana Anjum <anjumdyn@gmail.com> wrote:
Aslamoalakum Atif bahi, kise pr keechar auchalna sa phly apny giraban ma dakh loo k khood kya hoo ...its an advice only ...

FYI



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Atif Aleem <atifalm@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM
Subject: Rana
To: managementvustudymasti <anjumdyn@gmail.com>


aap ki sehar sister (Palwasha Khan) nazar nahi aati hy aaj kal
kahain hajj ko to ni chali gai
:P
kidher hoti hy?
 





On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Atif Aleem <atifalm@gmail.com> wrote:
aap ahmad raza khan sab ko Immam likhty hain
per kehty hain un ka koi mukalad nahi hy
agar takleed nahi hy to imamat kesi?




On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:57 PM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Akhtalaf kahin bi Ulma kiram ki ray main a sakta hay. Jis ki tahkik zayada ho gi us ki ray mazboot ho gi.
 
Our Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Fazil Bralwi ki tashreehat tu urdu main han, un ki koi baat deen main hujat nahi hay.
 
Bara Imam 4 hi han our un 4 Aima main sa sab say bara martaba Imam Azam Razi Allah Anha ka hay. Isi lia koi shakhs yah nahi kahta kay wo Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Rahmatullah Alaha ka Mukalid hay.
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
Agar aap loog Ahmad raza Khan ki tashreeh par amal karty hain
to Imam abu hanifa ki tashreeh jo unhoon ny ki hy wo jkahan gai?

shriat main jis ki tashreeh par amal kia jata hy
wo imaam hota hy
aur imaam ek hi hota hy

Ahmad raza khan ki tashreeh kion zaroori karrar pai
aur kai Ahmad raza Khan sab aur Immam abu hamnifa ky btay hoy msail main kahain bhi ikhtilaf nahi hy kia?

 
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:17 PM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
 
Bralwi koi maslak tu nahi hay, jis par tum bahas kar rahaho.
 
Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Fazil Bralvi Rahmatullah Alaha India kay shahar Brali kay rahna wala thay. Our wo buhat bara Alim deen thay, jo log un kay akhaz kiya hoa masail say mustafeed hotay han un ko bralvi kahta han, agar tumhan pahla wali definition pasand nahi ai tu yah lay lo. (Kyun kay wo bi Ahl'Sunnat say taluk rakhtay han, our Hanfi bi han) Is lia baat tu aik hi hoi na....
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
bokhla tum gay ho
 
se jo talak rakhty hain ho hanfi hain
bralwi ni

bralwi kia hy?
jo baat ka asal focus hy waha aa ky dandi maar jaty ho
bralvi ko drfine karo
aur tarpo ni
buhat lamba time hy apny pass

tum ko jany ni doon ga

aur tum ko mode se bhi remove kar raha hoon

 
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:40 PM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Aik email ko 3 bar bhaj kar kya sabit karna chahta ho? Abi say bokhla gay ho?
 
Agar hakikat ko face kar sakta ho tu mari emails ko without moderation ana do.
 
mujy is ki tareef bta do
Ahl e Sunnat Wal Jmaat =    Pyara Aqa Salal'laho Alaha Wasalam ki Sunnat Our Sahaba Kiram ki Jammat kay mutabik amal karna.
 
Hanfi=     kay Parokar ko Hanfi Kahta han
 
Bralwi=    Jo log Ahl'Sunnat Wal Jammat say taluk rakhta han our say Mukalid han wo Bralwi kahlata han.
 
 
 
Tum apni kahi hoi baat par ao: Agay picha kyun bhag raha ho?
 
Is baat par kyun nahi ata?
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
mera bhai
tum ny khod ko "mara Taluk Ahl'Sunnat Wal Jammat say hay. (Hanfi Bralwi)" kaha hy

mujy is ki tareef bta do
Ahl e Sunnat =
Wal Jmaat=
Hanfi=
Bralwi=

kion dar rahy ho
ya tum ko khod ni maloom wesy hi ek ratta rtaya fikra bool dia hy

main bhi zaroor btaon ga
keh main kis din ka manny wala hoon
na keh firky ka
aur yeh bhi sabat karon ga
keh firka tum loog ho
hum nahi
Alhamdo Lillah



 
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:30 PM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
 
Kya chata ho ab?
 
Mara introduction ka kya kam hay mara akida say? Tumhara taluk kis farka say hay?
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
kaam ki baat hi kar raha hon
akedy ki baat base ky bageer kesy ho sakti hy
apna intro to copmplete karwao
aagy per baat ho gi


On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:51 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
 
kam ki baat karo, is baat par khud say research karo.
 
Baat Akida ki shuru karo agar kar sakta ho tu, No Right Left --- Straight to point.
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
Hanhi se murad to Imam abbu hanifa hain
ji keh imaam hain
aur un ki din ki tashreeh par amal karny waly hanfi hoty hain
Bralvi ?????
wesy kesy ho gia?



On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:43 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
 
Bralwi = Pahchan hay, jasa Hanfi hay wasa hi Bralwi hay.
 
Yah sirf tumhari malomat kay lia hay. Kyun kay ab Deobandi bi apna ap ko Ahl'Sunnat kahlana lagay han. IS lia un say farak rakhna kay lia Bralwi kaha jata hay.
 
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
"mara Taluk Ahl'Sunnat Wal Jammat say hay. (Hanfi Bralwi)"
yeh aao ki statment hy
is main main ny "
(Hanfi Bralwi)" ky mutalak poocha hy
mujy is ka jawab do
Bralwi  kia hy



On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:36 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
Koi bi ho ga. Is baat say mara Akida ka kya kam hay??? Akida ki baat karo.
 
Kisi specific person say mara akida ka koi kam nahi.
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
acha

Ahmad Raza Khan koon hy?




On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:22 AM, خاکسار <muhammad_Bilal1@live.com> wrote:
WaAlikum-o-Salam,
 
Khar Mubarak.
 
 
Agar janta ho tu baat agay barhao, waqat kyun zaya karta ho???
 
mara Taluk Ahl'Sunnat Wal Jammat say hay. (Hanfi Bralwi)
 
Muhammad Bilal
 
From: Atif Aleem
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
 
Asslamo ALikum

Eid Mubarak


jinab mujy aap ky akaid ka aap ki mails se andaza ho gia hy
main ny poocha is liy hy keh aap ky galt hony ki buniad ko aap ky mnuh se niklwaya jay

is liy aap ka taraf poocha hy
keh aap farmain aap ki buniad kia hy
aur aap ky akaid kai hain?


On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:58 PM, ... خاکسار <muhammad_bilal1@live.com> wrote:

1- Ainda jab bi email karo muja tu reply bi us main include hona chahiya. email ko aik thread main hona chahiya.

 
"Apna introduction karwao
tum koon ho"
 
2- Introduction kay lia itna kafi nahi kay mara name mara ID main hay??? Lahore say hun.

 
 
"aur tumhara akeeda kia hy
aur tumhari buniad kai hy?"
 
3- Agar tumhan yahi nahi pata tu phir tum na mara akida ko ghalat kasa kah dia???

"tum kab toba kar rahy ho
galt akaid, bidaat aur gumrahi se"
 
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 05:40:56 -0700

Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
From: atifalm@gmail.com
To: coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com

Apna introduction karwao
tum koon ho
aur tumhara akeeda kia hy
aur tumhari buniad kai hy?

swal par swal ni karna
sirf jawab dena hy
ok

 

 
Jab tum sabit kar do gay kay mara akida ghalat hay our tumhara sahi.

Ab hay himat tu barho ahay.

Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:44:42 -0700
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
From: atifalm@gmail.com
To: coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com

Very nice

tum kab toba kar rahy ho
galt akaid, bidaat aur gumrahi se

Allah se dua mango Allah tuj par haq ko khool de
mur mukhlas ho ky mango
Allah zaroor raham kary ga
In Shaa Allah
 
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http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
 
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--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 

--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 

--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
 
--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 

--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 

--
--
For study materials, past papers and assignments,
Join VU School at www.vuscool.com
 
Facebook Group link
http://www.facebook.com/groups/vuCoooL
 
CoooL Virtual University Students Google Group.
To post to this group, send email to coool_vu_students@googlegroups.com
 
home page
http://groups.google.com/group/coool_vu_students?hl=en
 
 
 
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